
I should apologise for this, but found it inexplicably hilarious.
The image that came to my head, to give the idea, was - memory of a fly landing on a dog's noseand something rose across my vision from bottom left to top right, and I tilted my head a few times to try and get it again, thinking it was a trick of the light on the inner surface of my glasses. CR read on for almost half a minute, describing how the dog might react to the fly, and how he was trying to get the description right, and now:
To intensify my idea and make the point of irritation more of an impossible, inaccessible fixture...and we realised there was a butterfly onstage.
Probably: as if it had a fly up its nostril [laughter from the audience] while I was actually writing these words...For now the butterfly was in full view, under the spotlight, fluttering over Reid's head. Still laughter
...an average size bluefly came straight acorss that very cold room - where no fly could have moved since November at the latest -more laughter -
and went straight up my nostril, where it lodged.The butterfly landed on Reid's head, to general hilarity. He felt something and brushed at it, so it left again and fluttered around, and he saw it, but not before he'd read:
I extracted it, and pressed it in my Shakespeare.And as he finished the sentence, he was laughing too, and pointing at the butterfly, and said what we were all thinking, if only in jest: "He's here!" After a bit it fluttered onto one of the cardboard boxes bearing the legend "Words", where it stayed until the end of the lecture.
Several of the contributors [are] mingling nervously with the guests. You can tell that they’re poets as they’re wearing mainly velvet clothing with lots of scarves and some of them have on jaunty hats. [p 183]
[snip] The impulse to explain poetry as a symptom of its author's biography or its social context is pervasive these days, including among authors themselves. But that has always seemed to me a form of self-imprisonment, neglecting or even negating the possibilities poetry offers not just of being someone else, anyone and/or everyone else, but of being no one at all, of existing, however contingently, outside the shackles of identity and definition. Poetry is, among other things, a way of opening up worlds and possibilities of worlds. It offers a combination of otherness and brotherhood, the opportunity to find the otherness in the familiar, to find the familiar in the other. [/snip]I agree that identity politics can be boring. That's when it's unambitious for language, and focused on grievance. (And I'm not denying that grievance can be well justified.) But don't you think that people can be included, rather than excluded, by work rooted in identity? Isn't it possible for me, a white hetero woman, to be more than simply a cultural tourist when reading Aime Cesaire, or John Agard, or Lemn Sissay? Or Marilyn Hacker, or Mark Doty, or Thom Gunn? Isn't it possible that the sheer explicitness of the identity can sometimes touch us at a more human level than simple groupthink? I'd be wary of a poetry that insisted one had to cut free of where the poet comes from, in order to achieve some sort of universal poetic sensibility. (And I'd be wary, not least, because of norms that may be taken for granted.) When the reader can trust the voice, through the use of language, s/he can imagine better what it's like to be (say) a Catholic farm boy in Protestant-dominated Northern Ireland, and look at where he's pointing. And the humanity that's touched there is somehow all the deeper for starting in difference.
I think, even among explorers, that we don’t pay enough attention to process. I think every piece of infrastructure – every building – is on a trajectory, and you’re experiencing it at just one moment in its very extended life.And there are some fabulous photographs.
We see things, but we don’t often ask how they came about or where they’re going to go from here – whether there will be structural deterioration, or if living things will colonize the structure. We tend to ignore these things, or to see them in temporal isolation. We also don’t give enough time or consideration to how this infrastructure fits into the broader urban fabric, within the history of a city, and where that city’s going, and whose lives have been affected by it and whatever may happen to it in the future. I think these are all stories that really need to start being told.
1. Gents in a landscape hang above their lands.I couldn't work out what was going on here. Is it even set in the present? 'Gents' signals something, perhaps the relative social status of the narrator and those who hang. It's an aggressive, or at least assertive word, and that sort of confidence can be disarming... In what sense do they 'hang above their lands'? In portraits? Maybe the title suggests another group of people. 'Landscape hang' has John Bergerish implications, and I don't know who 'they' are, or whether we're talking paintings, aeroplanes, maps, land tenure, or what. (As well as the shape of the shadows on the ground, the word 'peninsulas' makes me think of Spain, then Malaya, Korea. Exploited soldiers, foreign wars.) Is the 'their' of 'their lands' the Gents? Is it the same as the 'their' of 'Their shadows'? Sloppy writing, or deliberate ambiguity? Ah, it all depends on your point of view. We may be looking at agricultural labourers, rather than rich men in aeroplanes. (Land tenure, then.) And the hanging may be not just pictures, but what the tenant would do to the landlord. The poet is putting us on notice that the poem will be politically engaged; he (I'm sure it's male) will aim to disrupt our cosy expectations of social order and syntax. I might read on, but warily, as I'm having a lot of difficulty following this. I'm not yet convinced the writer is in control of his pronouns.
Their long keen shadows trace peninsulas on fields.
2 My eyes have chased you over ponds, affinity, silver stations,
the mesh fences parting pastures, orange quells and orchards;
3 Office-bound, the bored despot fingerpads her quilted hoursTexting on the train? Why is it made so complicated? It seems almost desperate to prove itself poetic. Faint echoes of Eliot, but every word is on speed. Like most of the other examples here, you'd never encounter these word sequences outside a poem. The 'despot' is held up as an object of contempt - perhaps I'm betraying my own prejudices here but I sense that 'quilted' and 'bobbins' are an atttempt to put her in her place. Sounds female, as no right on male would dare be so rude, or even so interested. And quite young.
testing for give; sostenuto clicks the chorus of her bobbins
4 A sluggish tide, a small surprising wind.Why is the wind 'surprising' if this is the coast? I'm unconvinced. And why is nothing happening? And is it ever going to?
A zigzag iron stairway still too hot to step on.
5 We've got lavender toilet paperThe conversational tone is mildly engaging, but there's a snobbery there I didn't warm to, as if we were being invited to laugh at the contrast between the chichi lavender paper and Worksop. (What's wrong with Worksop? Didcot? Penge?) I wonder if this is in the voice of some Hyacinth Bucket figure, and how much more the poem is going to be able to tell us beyond this. Sounds like a man taking the piss.
made in Worksop
6 We wake to a world invisibly tangled up in threads'We wake' instantly sets my teeth on edge. Sounds like exclusive, holiday stuff. 'Gypsy bells' - please! (Oh, no, you don't understand, there really were gypsy bells! Are you saying no-one can ever write about gypsy bells?) And why is it necessary to add 'a world invisibly tangled up in threads' to the sound? The poem has already given itself a lot to prove. 'Helium chitter-chatter' is slightly more interesting, as if the complacencies might possibly unravel, but there's a lot of helium about in poems these days. It might be part of a sequence.
of gypsy bells, to high-speed helium chitter-chatter
7 Impacted gold of the perished and the unborn,'Impacted gold' makes me think more of wisdom teeth with fillings. It's absurd hyperbole. Neo-metaphysical. A Catholic upbringing leads one to value each potential soul; bloke wants girl to value them too. Fetch the tissues. Perhaps it's going to be funny. That pun on 'suns'...
Wayfaring the globe of the body like tiny suns.
8 The feathers were taken from the front wheel of a juggernaut.'Painterly'. Passive voice focuses on the feathers, not the act of removing them - image rather than action. I like that word 'hinged'. I don't agree with Rob M about the order of the lines here. 'Juggernaut' could only work with the matter-of-factness of the first line, where it's a word everyone uses about big lorries. The second line cranks up the poetic rhetoric, and 'juggernaut' would be overladen after that. 'All the colours of a winter morning' is pushing its luck. There are enough poems about roadkill, aren't there? It would have to do something really special to earn its keep. But I do like 'hinged' so might read on.
All the colours of a winter morning, hinged with pink and bone.
9 Beneath her white wool pilch, the trial hair shirtUm - don't get this at all. I had to look up pilch (which is OK, I don't mind doing that) but it left me none the wiser in the context here. It places it elsewhere in time. I liked 'the trial hair shirt' but haven't a clue what 'malt-nets' might be, or why tears should rot them, or why she should make a hair shirt out of them. The woman is clearly upset about something, some sort of martyr, but her tears don't interest me enough yet. (Tears is a push-button that doesn't work for me.) This is the only one I noticed in iambic pentameter. That is tempting in itself, though it feels as if the writer is showing off. It's not Duhig is it? I'd read it if his name was at the bottom of the page.
she cut from malt-nets rotted with her tears.
10 What are you doing here, ghost, among these urns,I quite liked the contrast between the first line and the second. The ghost among urns could be a classical image, then - whoops- we are down in the refreshment tent. A direct address sets up expectations of something dramatic. But as Rob says, it's hard to see that this one isn't going to go in the usual direction. The language in the second line is flat - or simply unpretentious. Maybe that trick with the urn pulls it off. There's a sense of humour here. (Just think what the author of number 3 would have made of this material.) I reserve judgement until I read on. If I had to hazard a guess, I'd say Fanthorpe.
These film-wrapped sandwiches and help-yourself biscuits,
Crabtree, described in the press as a "pink-wigged pocket Venus from Cornwall", will perform for passengers as part of what the rail company calls "our annual engagement with our public".
The fashion for hiring poets as a way of illustrating corporate respectability, rather as developers and supermarkets plant trees when they are up to no good, had seemed to have passed a couple of years ago. Companies quickly discovered that modern poets, with their fluting voices and studied eccentricities, merely ratchet up irritation levels.'Fluting voices'? 'Studied eccentricities'? Who on earth can he have in mind?
A woman’s voice cannot escape its sex, so female poets who write ‘I’ will be read as writing either about their own experience, or the experience of other women. Does this matter and, if it does, why? Vicki Bertram will discuss some of the ideas explored in her book Gendering Poetry: contemporary women and men poets.Oh, really? So where does that leave 'The River-Merchant's Wife'? Or the farmer, for that matter, in 'The Farmer's Bride'?
Another morning, Philip Larkin told me on the phone that he hadn't written a poem for over a year; three days later, one of his most beautiful poems arrived for me in the post. Did my phone call, I wondered, precipitate in some strange way the writing of the poem?You bet.
1. How many poets should be published?As many as you can sell. And there are others who won't make any money for anyone, but occasionally some mad, altruistic publisher who believes in the work will attempt delay its oblivion. And they will be read long after they're dead, and no mark on their living face will have foretold who they are.
2. What do people think makes them choose one new volume of poetry over another? If there are, let's say, 20,000 new volumes of poetry in English a yearThat many? I will probably know about only a few dozen English and a smattering of US. One or two others. They are already well-sifted by the time I get to hear of them.
3. Are writers condemned to be middleclass? Or is it just poets that are piss poor?43% of the population identify themselves as middle class. I'm not sure I understand this question. Does it mean that the act of writing ipso facto condemns one to be middle class (Tony Harrison) - not something the founders of WEA would have subscribed to - or that poets were middle class before they even picked up a pen? (John Burnside, Paul Farley, Kathleen Jamie, John Clare...) Does it mean that middle class people should shut up? Political allegiances are also interesting. Or is it simply that the conditions of the middle class are more conducive to writing?
4. Can one write in isolation?Yes. Dickinson. Hopkins. Sally Purcell. It's not a lot of fun.
5. Is "who you know" still more important in the world of writers than "what you know". More writers are chosen from introductions and recommendations than the K2 sized slush pile. Am I right? Are you going to the right parties?Yes. Yes. No. Which is a bummer, if you hate parties. See 4 above.
6. ...whether three or four workshops in London are more effective than all the MAs in Creative Writing in the UK at putting poets into lists.MAs are networks too. But sad if that's all they are. With luck and a fair wind, they might even help people to read and write more thoughtfully. Focus. Or get jobs, of course. I don't think MAs are marketed as about getting into lists, are they?
7. Are sales driven less by writing competence and excellence and more by celebrity and marketing?I haven't a clue. Although I loathe those lifestyle articles that write about a poet without quoting a line (eg The Independent's infamous puff about John Stammers a few years back), I'm susceptible to some sorts of hype - if Cape or Picador are telling me this is the next big thing, I'll take a look. They have good editors. So the chances are that what they're hyping is well written. (Sometimes that trumps the Borders test in 2 above. Who buys Fabers on the cover design?) But I deeply resent the books that clog my shelves - books I bought because I was told I should like them, and didn't. Perhaps I will learn to like them. Perhaps I should get rid.
8. Who are the ten most important people in the world of UK poetry?Hmmm. Promoters, teachers and gatekeepers spring to mind: Don Paterson, Robin Robertson, Neil Astley, Michael Schmidt, Naomi Jaffa, Anne-Marie Fyfe, Fiona Sampson, Paul Beasley, and whoever gets to write the GCSE syllabus.
9. Can poetry survive by ignoring what people want?Poetry must survive by educating the demand. Poetry makes its own rules. It deserves to die if it goes down the route of If you liked Seamus Heaney you will love Turnip Snedding on Steroids. Hell, I love Heaney! (OK, tmi.) There's bound to be a gap between what the public wants and what the artist is trying to sell them. A creative bridge. Another question is how poetry keeps on convincing the Arts Council that it's worth supporting... Or how the Arts Council keeps on convincing the government that any arts are worth supporting...
10. Given production exceeds demand, should we stop teaching and developing poets now until a balance is restored?Only if poetry teachers have a private income. And, er, why should anyone worry about balance? Who is disadvantaged by imbalance? And who is 'we'?
Writing is an exercise in controlling fear, especially the fear that you're not a writer.
To say that one doesn’t know what a poem means, if one understands its literal sense, is to say that one doesn’t know why it’s saying what it’s saying. The reader asks, “Why am I being told or shown this?”- that's how I've felt on the few occasions I've read a Kooser poem. I didn't realise he was 'difficult'!